Kemal, Erdogan, Gulen and the Clintons

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Fethullah Gulen. AFP Photo/Selahattin Sevi

This is a Facebook exchange between my nephew and I from July 31  – Aug 1, 2016:  –SAB

Nephew:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/21/abraham-wagner-gulen-movement-a-threat-to-us-turke/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

Me:  “I thought Erdogan [,Tayip] was the bad guy.  He’s an Islamist fighting against secularism.  I had heard of Gulen [,Fethullah] , but didn’t know anything about him.  I suspected that he wanted to overthrow Islamism in Turkey.  I’m confused.”

Me:  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/31/pictures-huge-pro-erdogan-islamist-rally-germany/

Nephew:  https://www.youtube.com/embed/O-dLooXbybk

Nephew:  Is taxpayer money from his schools being funneled into Hillary’s campaign though?  I’ve read that from at least 3 articles, at least one says it’s quoting court documents.

Me: [After viewing the above video]  The secularists in Turkey, what are left of them, follow Kemal [Mustafa Kemal Ataturk] who was also a secularist back in the early 20th century.  Erdogan and Gulen are pro-jihadist, Islamic fundamentalists who both seek the return of shariah law and the Caliphate.  They had a recent power split.  Erdogan wants to be, essentially, the “Sultan of the Caliphate,” a return to the Ottoman Empire, before Kemal had secularized it.  Gulen wants to run, essentially, the same Islamic State from his billions-dollars compound in the Poconos of Pennsylvania through the educational programs he has set up throughout many U.S. states, using taxpayer dollars. 

Erdogan wants Gulen extradited to Turkey where he can imprison him, thus consolidating his sole power.  The FBI has investigated Gulen, and is continuing to investigate him, but cannot pin him down for breaking any laws.  The U.S., therefore, has no basis to extradite him.

The above Washington Times article is unabashedly pro-Erdogan and anti-Gulen. The large rally in Germany shows just how far-reaching is Erdogan’s influence in Europe, however Gulen has graduates of his schools placed throughout Turkey in business, legislative, police and judicial positions, too many for Erdogan to eliminate. 

One thing for sure, the Kemal movement is dead, and Erdogan and Gulen are no friends to NATO.  The migration of ISIS jihadists from Syria to Turkey to Europe will continue.  As far as Hillary’s Clinton Foundation connection to Gulen, I still know nothing about that.

Me:  http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

Nephew:  https://www.youtube.com/embed/mqrN540Zvf0

Me:  A complex and murky character, indeed!

IS, ISIS, or ISIL? Hmm!

1.  What does IS translate into?

2.  What does ISIS translate into?

3.  What does ISIL translate into?

4.  What is the Levant?

5.  What does the Islamic terrorist group refer to itself as?

6.  What does Barack Obama and his administration officially refer to the Islamic terrorist group as?

7.  Does ISIS include Israel?

8.  Does IS and ISIL include Israel?

1.  IS = Islamic State, which can also be referred to as a caliphate:  “Conceptually, a caliphate represents a sovereign state of the entire Muslim faithful, (the Ummah), ruled by a caliph under Islamic law (sharia).”  [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate ] .  “In its self-proclaimed status as a caliphate, it claims religious authority over all Muslims across the world”  [  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant ] .

2.  ISIS = Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.  [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant ] .

3.  ISIL = Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.  [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant ] .

3.  Levant = “. . . a geographic and cultural region consisting of the ‘eastern Mediterranean littoral between Anatolia and Egypt’.  The Levant today consists of Cyprus, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and part of southern Turkey (the former Aleppo Vilayet).  [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant ] and [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant .]

4.  The Islamic terrorist group refers to itself as IS.

5.  Barack Obama and his administration refer to the Islamic terrorist group as ISIL.

6.  No.

7.  Yes.

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*Please also see:

IS, ISIS, or ISIL–or Daesh? France now says, “Daesh!”  (22 September 2014)